26 novembre 2010

[jahjah]

J'ai eu l'impression qu'Austin se faisait pas mal de pub tout de même... Surtout au niveau des Apps. X-Plane pour l'iPhone et l'iPad (sans compter l'iPod Touch...).
Très rapidement au début du chat, il nous a vite fait comprendre que sans ces applications (10$ pièce tout de même), aucun financement ne serait pour la version 10, en effet, à 29$ la version 9 en DVD il ne fait pas les bénéfices capables de payer les programmeurs qui travaillent pour lui...


Sinon c'était sympa :D

[david42fr]

Je n'ai pas eu l'impression non plus d'avoir beaucoup d'informations supplémentaires.

[Pierre]

Comme promis, voici le log de la session de chat de ce vendredi 26 avec Austin.

1ère partie :

[X-Plane.fr]: ameyer est arrivé(e) à 7:56 pm.
[heli-samu] 7:56 pm [undefined]: mac
[PGirboux] 7:56 pm [undefined]: Hello Austin !
[ameyer] 7:56 pm [undefined]: hullo!
[ameyer] 7:56 pm [undefined]: do i chat here?
[heli-samu] 7:56 pm [undefined]: Hey ameyer
[maclinuxg4] 7:56 pm [undefined]: hi
[ameyer] 7:56 pm [undefined]: hullo!
[Daniel_L] 7:56 pm [undefined]: Welcome Austin
[PGirboux] 7:56 pm [undefined]: yes, on are 'live'
[heli-samu] 7:56 pm [undefined]: i think so
[LoseMagnet] 7:56 pm [undefined]: Hello
[X-Plane.fr]: pepito59 est arrivé(e) à 7:57 pm.
[ameyer] 7:57 pm [undefined]: ok i wanted to make sure i am at the right place!
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 7:57 pm [undefined]: Welcome Mister Austin, glad to hear you
[ameyer] 7:57 pm [undefined]: i take questions here
[PGirboux] 7:57 pm [undefined]: Firts, thank you for accepting my invitation !
[X-Plane.fr]: michelpia est arrivé(e) à 7:57 pm.
[ameyer] 7:57 pm [undefined]: this is the right time to take questions as well?
[PGirboux] 7:58 pm [undefined]: we are waitin 8 pm
[ameyer] 7:58 pm [undefined]: je suis desolae.. mon frnacias ne'st pas tres bien
[heli-samu] 7:58 pm [undefined]: just 2 min to wait
[ameyer] 7:58 pm [undefined]: puet etre je peux parler en francais, mais pas tres bien
[X-Plane.fr]: david_dtc est arrivé(e) à 7:58 pm.
[ameyer] 7:58 pm [undefined]: daccord
[PGirboux] 7:58 pm [undefined]: on continue en francais or do you prefere in english ?
[ameyer] 7:58 pm [undefined]: ok
[david_dtc] 7:58 pm [undefined]: salut à tous / hi all
[heli-samu] 7:59 pm [undefined]: at the first sight, your french is good
[PGirboux] 7:59 pm [undefined]: great ! super, merci
[ameyer] 7:59 pm [undefined]: nous essayon en francais?
[PGirboux] 7:59 pm [undefined]: ok, en francais !
[X-Plane.fr]: Jakotakoo est arrivé(e) à 7:59 pm.
[ameyer] 7:59 pm [undefined]: combien de person est ici qui ne peux pas parler in anglais?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 7:59 pm [undefined]: For technical terms don't hesitate to use English
[X-Plane.fr]: antddh est arrivé(e) à 7:59 pm.
[ameyer] 7:59 pm [undefined]: ok
[X-Plane.fr]: Harfang est arrivé(e) à 7:59 pm.
[PGirboux] 8:00 pm [undefined]: on va attendre encore quelsues minutes avant de commencer
[PGirboux] 8:00 pm [undefined]: Austin, quelle heure il est chez vous ?
[ameyer] 8:01 pm [undefined]: 2 pm
[ameyer] 8:01 pm [undefined]: 1400
[PGirboux] 8:01 pm [undefined]: ok, bonne après-midi alors
[ameyer] 8:01 pm [undefined]: j'ai fait le dejeuner a 1330
[ameyer] 8:01 pm [undefined]: c'est 1400 maintenant
[ameyer] 8:02 pm [undefined]: c'est beaus ici
[X-Plane.fr]: Chouchou2570 est arrivé(e) à 8:02 pm.
[PGirboux] 8:02 pm [undefined]: ici, c'est froid, +- 2c
[Chouchou2570] 8:02 pm [undefined]: Hello folks !
[ameyer] 8:02 pm [undefined]: zout alors!
[Daniel_L] 8:02 pm [undefined]: A Paris il est 8pm 20h00
[ameyer] 8:02 pm [undefined]: c'est tres beaus ici
[ameyer] 8:02 pm [undefined]: 22 deg C
[heli-samu] 8:02 pm [undefined]: ou etes vous exactement Austin ?
[Jakotakoo] 8:02 pm [undefined]: We had snow this afternoon in Paris
[ameyer] 8:03 pm [undefined]: le ciel blue, avec beacoup 'clouds'
[ameyer] 8:03 pm [undefined]: je suis 'south carolina'
[ameyer] 8:03 pm [undefined]: caroline de sud
[heli-samu] 8:03 pm [undefined]: great
[ameyer] 8:03 pm [undefined]: comment dit-on 'clouds' en francais?
[heli-samu] 8:03 pm [undefined]: nuage
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:03 pm [undefined]: nuages
[ameyer] 8:04 pm [undefined]: il y a beacoup do nuages ice avec le ciel blue
[michelpia] 8:04 pm [undefined]: Même temps à Bruxelles 2° demain -4°
[ameyer] 8:04 pm [undefined]: c'est bonne pour regarder pour fait le x-plane 10
[X-Plane.fr]: khamsin est arrivé(e) à 8:04 pm.
[PGirboux] 8:04 pm [undefined]: ha, je ne suis pas le seul belge
[michelpia] 8:04 pm [undefined]: eh non
[X-Plane.fr]: marcdir est arrivé(e) à 8:04 pm.
[khamsin] 8:04 pm [undefined]: bonsoir à tous
[PGirboux] 8:04 pm [undefined]: bon, les présentations sont terminées, on va commencer doucement...
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:05 pm [undefined]: Oui, c'est une excellente occasion de bien développer Xplane 10
[PGirboux] 8:05 pm [undefined]: Austin, vous avez combien de temps libre pour parler ?
[X-Plane.fr]: benead est arrivé(e) à 8:05 pm.
[ameyer] 8:05 pm [undefined]: puet etre 30 minutes?
[ameyer] 8:05 pm [undefined]: je fais le 'wing-flex' aujourdhui
[X-Plane.fr]: BBU25 est arrivé(e) à 8:05 pm.
[PGirboux] 8:05 pm [undefined]: on va commencer alors
[ameyer] 8:05 pm [undefined]: je fait le 'wings bnending in turbulence' maintentant
[ameyer] 8:06 pm [undefined]: mais je peux arrete le coding pour peut etre 30 muntes
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:06 pm [undefined]: ça s'annonce génial
[PGirboux] 8:06 pm [undefined]: la première question est très simple et tout le monde a envie de la poser : X-Plane 10 est "delayed', combien de temps avant la sortie ???
[ameyer] 8:06 pm [undefined]: oui
[ameyer] 8:06 pm [undefined]: peut etre mars
[X-Plane.fr]: dany28 est arrivé(e) à 8:07 pm.
[X-Plane.fr]: PascalPe est arrivé(e) à 8:07 pm.
[ameyer] 8:07 pm [undefined]: puet etre beta in february
[ameyer] 8:07 pm [undefined]: ok je parl en anglais
[ameyer] 8:07 pm [undefined]: mone anglais c'est meillure
[X-Plane.fr]: david42fr est arrivé(e) à 8:07 pm.
[PGirboux] 8:07 pm [undefined]: ok
[heli-samu] 8:07 pm [undefined]: no problem
[ameyer] 8:07 pm [undefined]: je voudrais choissir le mots juste, donc il faut que je parler en anglais
[ameyer] 8:07 pm [undefined]: ok?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:07 pm [undefined]: perfect for us
[Daniel_L] 8:07 pm [undefined]: Ok
[ameyer] 8:07 pm [undefined]: ok we have a number of people working on x-plane
[Chouchou2570] 8:07 pm [undefined]: Let's go
[ameyer] 8:07 pm [undefined]: x-plane 10
[ameyer] 8:08 pm [undefined]: we have ben supnike doing the plausible world scenery
[ameyer] 8:08 pm [undefined]: we have alex gifford doing the plausible world objects
[ameyer] 8:08 pm [undefined]: we have alex fgifford making the plausible world objects and textures.. he is doing a really relly really amazing job

[Pierre]

2ème partie :

[Daniel_L] 8:09 pm [undefined]: Alex is replacing Sergio ?
[ameyer] 8:09 pm [undefined]: we have ben supnik doing all the MATH to PLACE all of alex giffords buildings all over the world
[ameyer] 8:09 pm [undefined]: we have chris serio doing the new air traffic control
[ameyer] 8:09 pm [undefined]: this is air traffic control whee planes will taxi, take off, fly, land, and taxi in
[ameyer] 8:09 pm [undefined]: we have javier rollon (spain) doing new airplanes
[ameyer] 8:09 pm [undefined]: we have tom kyler (usa) doing new airplanes
[ameyer] 8:10 pm [undefined]: and i am doing everything else (clouds, weather, wing-bending today, multi-prociessing... hundreds of other things)
[ameyer] 8:10 pm [undefined]: i have decided that we will not release the sim until all of the things mentioned above are done
[ameyer] 8:10 pm [undefined]: i could easily realease what i have right now and call it x-plane 10
[ameyer] 8:10 pm [undefined]: people would buy it
[ameyer] 8:10 pm [undefined]: it would be a nice upgrade
[ameyer] 8:10 pm [undefined]: BUT!!!!
[ameyer] 8:10 pm [undefined]: BUTT!!! the planes are NOT all done!
[X-Plane.fr]: Greuthz est arrivé(e) à 8:10 pm.
[ameyer] 8:11 pm [undefined]: the air traffic control can NOT control all 20 planes at once!
[ameyer] 8:11 pm [undefined]: there are only a few dozen buildings! (maybe 100)
[ameyer] 8:11 pm [undefined]: we have good cities, and good countryside, but no transition areas!
[ameyer] 8:11 pm [undefined]: we have streets and highways that look grear, but not all transitions betwen the,!
[ameyer] 8:11 pm [undefined]: between them!
[ameyer] 8:12 pm [undefined]: so, we have amazing cities, airplanes, and air traffic control, and good weather, and multi-processing, right now
[ameyer] 8:12 pm [undefined]: BUT, we need MORE planes, more TRANSITIONS between different types of roads and cities and countrysides
[ameyer] 8:12 pm [undefined]: we need air traffic control to handle all 20 palnes at the same time
[X-Plane.fr]: daerden est arrivé(e) à 8:12 pm.
[ameyer] 8:12 pm [undefined]: we need the weather to do all sorts of clouds, not just cimullus
[X-Plane.fr]: dany28 nous à quitté(e) à 8:12 pm.
[ameyer] 8:13 pm [undefined]: cum*
[ameyer] 8:13 pm [undefined]: since we still need more clouds types, more transitions, more planes, atc controlling more planes at once, we still need more time to work on this
[ameyer] 8:13 pm [undefined]: this is what will make v10 really 'complete' when it first launches
[ameyer] 8:13 pm [undefined]: i am losing money on x-plane 9 (!!) because it is so cheap and many people are waiting to buyt x-plane 10
[ameyer] 8:14 pm [undefined]: but, luckliy, the IPHONE is making anough money to pay for the development of x-plane 10!
[PGirboux] 8:14 pm [undefined]: and Android market ?
[ameyer] 8:14 pm [undefined]: so this is a really good situation for desktop flight-simmers... the revenue from the ipod-version sales is paying for the development of an amazing x-plane 10 for desktop!
[ameyer] 8:14 pm [undefined]: android does not yet have a store that is quite right for us
[ameyer] 8:15 pm [undefined]: we have a HUGE download, and we are working with google to get x-plane working with their store right now
[PGirboux] 8:15 pm [undefined]: great !
[ameyer] 8:15 pm [undefined]: we are under secrecy agreement with google so i cannot mention the specifics
[ameyer] 8:15 pm [undefined]: BUT, i can say that we are working with google, we do not fit on their store quite yet, but we are working on it
[ameyer] 8:16 pm [undefined]: but, i can tell you that the main sales for x-plane are on the iphone and ipod
[ameyer] 8:16 pm [undefined]: no doubt
[ameyer] 8:16 pm [undefined]: that is where the money comes from!
[ameyer] 8:16 pm [undefined]: but, lucky for everyone, i like to take all that money and spend it on making an amazing x-plane 10 for desktop!
[david_dtc] 8:16 pm [undefined]:
[ameyer] 8:16 pm [undefined]: so, the iphone sales actually make all of this desktop power for x-plane 10 possible!
[PGirboux] 8:16 pm [undefined]: thank you
[ameyer] 8:16 pm [undefined]: it is an interesting little way that things worked out
[ameyer] 8:17 pm [undefined]: if there was no iphone, then x-plane 10 would have to be very small.. i would not be able to hire all these people to make x-plane 10!
[ameyer] 8:17 pm [undefined]: so, it is funny... when you spend $10 to buy x-plane for IPHONE, you are actually helping pay for x-plane 10 for DESKTOP!!!
[ameyer] 8:17 pm [undefined]: i would have to charge a LOT more than $29 to cover the cost of x-plane 9, trust me!
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:18 pm [undefined]: And we love Iphone versions Too
[ameyer] 8:18 pm [undefined]: and i would have to charge a lot more than $29 to cover the cost of x-plane 10 development
[ameyer] 8:18 pm [undefined]: but apple makes it all possible with the iphone!
[ameyer] 8:18 pm [undefined]: that revenue from the iphone lets me make the most amazing sim ever created (i think) in x-plane 10!
[ameyer] 8:18 pm [undefined]: i wish i could show you the autogen screenshots, but i am not allowed to
[ameyer] 8:18 pm [undefined]: my staff would kill me if i ddid!
[ameyer] 8:18 pm [undefined]: and here is why:
[heli-samu] 8:19 pm [undefined]:
[ameyer] 8:19 pm [undefined]: the buildings look great, but the ground under them is not done yet
[ameyer] 8:19 pm [undefined]: so, the screenshots are not finished yet
[ameyer] 8:19 pm [undefined]: so i cannto show you yet, but remember: the goal is that everything i nthe world is plausible
[ameyer] 8:19 pm [undefined]: there cannot be any rendering error
[ameyer] 8:19 pm [undefined]: every single building must sit in a yard beside a road
[ameyer] 8:19 pm [undefined]: there can be no road going under a building
[ameyer] 8:19 pm [undefined]: no rooftop painted on the road
[ameyer] 8:20 pm [undefined]: no road crossing a road with an overlap
[ameyer] 8:20 pm [undefined]: no buiding sitting on top of a road
[ameyer] 8:20 pm [undefined]: no error, of any sort, is allowed
[ameyer] 8:20 pm [undefined]: this actually means that the workd we are building could alsoi be sued to play 'doom', or do a driving sim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[ameyer] 8:20 pm [undefined]: it has to be a plausible world with zero rendering errors
[ameyer] 8:21 pm [undefined]: this is a very specific, demanding requirement i have put on my scenery-development tea,
[ameyer] 8:21 pm [undefined]: team
[ameyer] 8:21 pm [undefined]: the bad news is it takes while to get perfect
[ameyer] 8:21 pm [undefined]: the good news is that i will know EXACTLY when it is done
[ameyer] 8:21 pm [undefined]: it is done when i can >>>WALK
[Chouchou2570] 8:21 pm [undefined]:
[ameyer] 8:21 pm [undefined]: it is done when i can WALK through the city and countryside and see nothing wrong!

[Pierre]

3ème partie :

[heli-samu] 8:21 pm [undefined]: when you say "the worl will be plausible as possible", all the world or mostly the USA ?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:22 pm [undefined]: là
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:22 pm [undefined]:
[ameyer] 8:22 pm [undefined]: and, my scenery-makers (ben and alex) are achiving this goal
[daerden] 8:22 pm [undefined]: Improved scenery based on openstreet certainly will be a big step forward (= plausible world). But are you still investing in user friendly tools that would allow us to make scenery (home bases) ourselves?
[ameyer] 8:22 pm [undefined]: hat is nice is they are achiving it wiuth ALGORYTHMS!
[ameyer] 8:22 pm [undefined]: they are NOT hand-crafting each city
[ameyer] 8:22 pm [undefined]: this would be impossible!
[ameyer] 8:22 pm [undefined]: the world is too big!
[ameyer] 8:22 pm [undefined]: so, they are designing COM****R PROGRAMS TO MAKE THE WORLD
[ameyer] 8:23 pm [undefined]: these programs read simple data: where is a road?
[ameyer] 8:23 pm [undefined]: where is a ciuty?
[ameyer] 8:23 pm [undefined]: where is a river?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:23 pm [undefined]: What about interconnections with google Earth ou things like that ?
[ameyer] 8:23 pm [undefined]: where is a populated area?
[ameyer] 8:23 pm [undefined]: what type of land is this?
[ameyer] 8:23 pm [undefined]: is it forest?
[ameyer] 8:23 pm [undefined]: is it farm?
[ameyer] 8:23 pm [undefined]: is it city?
[PascalPe] 8:23 pm [undefined]: Are them all pre-com****d ? We are affraid that all will require a too much large machine...
[ameyer] 8:23 pm [undefined]: then, from that simple data, the ALGORYTHM builds a PLAUSIBE city
[ameyer] 8:24 pm [undefined]: is it just like the real city?
[ameyer] 8:24 pm [undefined]: no.
[ameyer] 8:24 pm [undefined]: BUT, it is a POSSIBLE city
[ameyer] 8:24 pm [undefined]: a city with zero errors... a city where roads have intersections, buildings sit beside roads, and everything is 3d
[ameyer] 8:24 pm [undefined]: this is nice because they can spend 2 weeks making one highway
[X-Plane.fr]: tazyann est arrivé(e) à 8:24 pm.
[ameyer] 8:24 pm [undefined]: they get the barricads
[ameyer] 8:25 pm [undefined]: they gat the road texture
[ameyer] 8:25 pm [undefined]: they get the runoff lane
[ameyer] 8:25 pm [undefined]: they get the rust on th metal railing beside the highway
[ameyer] 8:25 pm [undefined]: they make that 1 section of highway PERFECT
[ameyer] 8:25 pm [undefined]: they work on, say, 100 meters of highway to make it perfect
[ameyer] 8:25 pm [undefined]: aincredible detail
[ameyer] 8:26 pm [undefined]: THEN, they use the PROGRAM to place that 100 meter section of highway ALONG EVERY HIGHWAY ON EARTH
[X-Plane.fr]: benead nous à quitté(e) à 8:26 pm.
[ameyer] 8:26 pm [undefined]: then, they make the program smart enough to CONNECT all the highways plausibly at the intersections
[ameyer] 8:26 pm [undefined]: so, they can NOT work on each bit of highway on earht!
[ameyer] 8:26 pm [undefined]: they would need 1000 years!
[ameyer] 8:26 pm [undefined]: instead, they make a SINGLE perfect stretch of highway
[ameyer] 8:26 pm [undefined]: a SINGLE 100 meters of railway track
[X-Plane.fr]: BBU25 nous à quitté(e) à 8:27 pm.
[ameyer] 8:27 pm [undefined]: a SINGLE 100 meters of bridge
[ameyer] 8:27 pm [undefined]: a group of maybe a several hundred buildings
[ameyer] 8:27 pm [undefined]: THEN, the com****r progra that generates the scenery USES those bits of highway and buildings to assemble them all together to form a plausible world
[ameyer] 8:27 pm [undefined]: it is realy really amazing
[ameyer] 8:28 pm [undefined]: i amso excited to turn it into a driving sim after the flight sim part is working perfectly!
[ameyer] 8:28 pm [undefined]: when you see the scenery you will understand!
[Chouchou2570] 8:28 pm [undefined]: A kind of autogen no ?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:28 pm [undefined]: This is a complete new process for Xplane 10 or you already use this for other cversions ?
[ameyer] 8:28 pm [undefined]: yes, this is like autogen
[ameyer] 8:28 pm [undefined]: NEW
[ameyer] 8:28 pm [undefined]: we had SOMETHING like it for x-plane 9
[X-Plane.fr]: arthl nous à quitté(e) à 8:28 pm.
[ameyer] 8:29 pm [undefined]: but, for x-plane 9, we had 'city textures' for the ground
[ameyer] 8:29 pm [undefined]: but, for v10 there is no city texture for the ground!
[ameyer] 8:29 pm [undefined]: that would be wrong!
[ameyer] 8:29 pm [undefined]: because there would be building rooftops planted on the ground!
[ameyer] 8:29 pm [undefined]: arg!
[ameyer] 8:29 pm [undefined]: no good!
[ameyer] 8:29 pm [undefined]: so, even new york starts with a grass texture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[ameyer] 8:29 pm [undefined]: then we simply add streets and buildings!
[ameyer] 8:30 pm [undefined]: and, where there are no streets or buildings... cenbtral park!
[Daniel_L] 8:30 pm [undefined]: When close, 3D buildings, but when far ?
[X-Plane.fr]: tazyann nous à quitté(e) à 8:30 pm.
[ameyer] 8:30 pm [undefined]: even cities start from a grass texture
[ameyer] 8:30 pm [undefined]: we have never dont his before!
[ameyer] 8:30 pm [undefined]: i dont know if anyone ever has!
[Chouchou2570] 8:30 pm [undefined]: New porwerful autogen is great....but it cannot remplace custom scenery. And we LACK of tools...
[ameyer] 8:30 pm [undefined]: ok next question?
[daerden] 8:30 pm [undefined]: Impressive. But doesn't this make Paris look awefully like New York? How does X-plane know that Manhatten needs skyscrapers, and Paris does noet?
[ameyer] 8:30 pm [undefined]: RIGHT!
[ameyer] 8:30 pm [undefined]: paris WILL look like new york!
[ameyer] 8:30 pm [undefined]: this is true!
[ameyer] 8:30 pm [undefined]: this can only be solved in 2 ways!
[ameyer] 8:31 pm [undefined]: 1: more different buildings made by alex for more parts of thr world
[ameyer] 8:31 pm [undefined]: 2: custom scenery packs
[ameyer] 8:31 pm [undefined]: we are working on #1 above, for sure!
[ameyer] 8:31 pm [undefined]: we want you to work on #2 above, for sure!
[ameyer] 8:31 pm [undefined]: ok
[ameyer] 8:31 pm [undefined]: next q?
[PGirboux] 8:32 pm [undefined]: What significant features and improvements do you intend to propose in subsequent revisions 10.xx ?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:32 pm [undefined]: And all those new textures will make the simulator framerate decrease, no ?
[ameyer] 8:32 pm [undefined]: ok let me take the q from piulouzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[daerden] 8:32 pm [undefined]: Will ATC be a com****rgenerated voice or recorded clips?
[maclinuxg4] 8:32 pm [undefined]: is a tool to convert or hlelp for transfert a part of all objet into X-plane 10 ?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:32 pm [undefined]:
[Harfang] 8:32 pm [undefined]: so no compatibility at all with version 9 scenerys?
[ameyer] 8:32 pm [undefined]: the TEXTURES will NOT hurt framerate if you lower the texture resolution enough for your video card
[ameyer] 8:33 pm [undefined]: the objects WILL hurt framerate
[ameyer] 8:33 pm [undefined]: th OBJECTS WILL hurt frame-rate for SURE
[ameyer] 8:33 pm [undefined]: so, you have to reduce the rendering options if your video card is not strong enough
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:33 pm [undefined]: ok thanks a lot
[ameyer] 8:33 pm [undefined]: then, new york will look like it did in 1750
[ameyer] 8:33 pm [undefined]: motly grass with a few buildings
[ameyer] 8:34 pm [undefined]: so, with weaker video cards, the cities will look like suburbs!
[ameyer] 8:34 pm [undefined]: BUT, they will look like REAL, PLAUSIBLE SUBURBS! ;-P
[X-Plane.fr]: Spock1 est arrivé(e) à 8:34 pm.
[ameyer] 8:34 pm [undefined]: at low rendering options, the sim will not look wrong!
[michelpia] 8:34 pm [undefined]: for example the scenery canadian rockies will tourn with xplane10?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:34 pm [undefined]: ok great informations
[ameyer] 8:34 pm [undefined]: it will just look like th citie are a few buildings and roads in the fields!
[ameyer] 8:35 pm [undefined]: now, x-plane 10 is MORE EFFICIENT than x-plane 9!
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:35 pm [undefined]: really ?
[ameyer] 8:35 pm [undefined]: we have coded it to use multi-thread more!
[ameyer] 8:35 pm [undefined]: we have coded it to group the building objects together into 1 big object on the video card more!
[ameyer] 8:35 pm [undefined]: this makes the frame-rate higher!
[Daniel_L] 8:36 pm [undefined]: Great
[ameyer] 8:36 pm [undefined]: if you ran x-plane 10 with exactly the same visual appeal as x-plane 9, it would run faster! and use less ram!
[ameyer] 8:36 pm [undefined]: this is because we are more efficient with ram, cpu, and objects!
[ameyer] 8:36 pm [undefined]: BUT!!!!
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:36 pm [undefined]: great great great
[ameyer] 8:36 pm [undefined]: BUT!!!
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:36 pm [undefined]: argh
[daerden] 8:36 pm [undefined]: lol

[Pierre]

4ème partie :

[ameyer] 8:36 pm [undefined]: BUT!!! in x-plane 10, there are MORE buildings, MORE planes, MORE scenery, MORE effects, MORE detailed flight model!
[ameyer] 8:37 pm [undefined]: SO, since there is MROE stuff going on, it will want MORE ram and MROE cpu!
[ameyer] 8:37 pm [undefined]: and MORE video card!
[ameyer] 8:37 pm [undefined]: BUT, that is only because more stuff is going on!
[X-Plane.fr]: PAT007 est arrivé(e) à 8:37 pm.
[ameyer] 8:37 pm [undefined]: i guarantee, though, that we have saved ram, used more multi-processing, and made the code more efficient!
[PascalPe] 8:37 pm [undefined]: Would XP10 runs at full details on current com****rs powers ? (quad/six cores @ 3MHz per example, 1G VRam) ? if not, at wich level would run that confiig ?
[daerden] 8:37 pm [undefined]: Wil
[ameyer] 8:38 pm [undefined]: since the code is more efficient, you will get more framerate, and less ram, PER BIT OF FLIGHT MODEL AND SCENERY THAT YOU GET
[X-Plane.fr]: JUMPY est arrivé(e) à 8:38 pm.
[ameyer] 8:38 pm [undefined]: i do not yet know about the questiuon from pascalpe
[ameyer] 8:38 pm [undefined]: i can only say this when we are well along into beta
[ameyer] 8:38 pm [undefined]: but, i CAN tell you something now!
[ameyer] 8:38 pm [undefined]: i can tell you now that if you reduce the rendering settings, the word will not 'break'!
[ameyer] 8:39 pm [undefined]: the cities will be less populated, but they will still look like a real world!
[X-Plane.fr]: laoo est arrivé(e) à 8:39 pm.
[ameyer] 8:39 pm [undefined]: maybe just a world where there are a few buildings beside a few road
[ameyer] 8:39 pm [undefined]: sort of like a town
[ameyer] 8:39 pm [undefined]: it will not be perfect city then
[ameyer] 8:39 pm [undefined]: but it will look like it COULD BE BUILT IN REALITY
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:39 pm [undefined]: but better than Xplane 9
[ameyer] 8:39 pm [undefined]: so it is PLAUSIBLE
[ameyer] 8:39 pm [undefined]: THAT is the exact goal here
[ameyer] 8:39 pm [undefined]: with x-plane 9, there can be roofs painted on the ground
[ameyer] 8:40 pm [undefined]: argh!
[ameyer] 8:40 pm [undefined]: no good
[X-Plane.fr]: lama est arrivé(e) à 8:40 pm.
[ameyer] 8:40 pm [undefined]: not for x-plane 10!
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:40 pm [undefined]:
[ameyer] 8:40 pm [undefined]: ok next q?
[maclinuxg4] 8:40 pm [undefined]: is a tool to convert or help to REUSE FOR CONVERSION of transfert a part or all objets into X-plane 10 ?
[Chouchou2570] 8:40 pm [undefined]: What about flight models oimprovement, the eart of XP ?
[ameyer] 8:40 pm [undefined]: the flight model change is very small
[ameyer] 8:40 pm [undefined]: the planes that fly fine in v9 will fly fine in v10
[ameyer] 8:40 pm [undefined]: all the v9 planes and scenery will run in v10 just fine
[ameyer] 8:40 pm [undefined]: the changes in the FM are small
[ameyer] 8:40 pm [undefined]: BUT, here is what is BIG:
[ameyer] 8:41 pm [undefined]: we now have each flight mdoel RUNNING ON IT'S OWN CPU!
[ameyer] 8:41 pm [undefined]: you can have 10 planes, and if you ahve 10 cores, then the framerate will be the same as if you have only 1 plane!
[ameyer] 8:41 pm [undefined]: so, if you have a lot of cores, then you can have a lot of plaines flying, with NO frame-rate hit!
[ameyer] 8:41 pm [undefined]: yee-haw!
[ameyer] 8:41 pm [undefined]: this is the step into the matrix
[ameyer] 8:41 pm [undefined]: the step into a world where many things happen at once
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH est arrivé(e) à 8:41 pm.
[ameyer] 8:42 pm [undefined]: it is all about asking how many cpus your pc has
[ameyer] 8:42 pm [undefined]: as well, today i am adding wing flex
[Chouchou2570] 8:42 pm [undefined]: 2 cores here
[ameyer] 8:42 pm [undefined]: this is fun
[X-Plane.fr]: laoo nous à quitté(e) à 8:42 pm.
[ameyer] 8:42 pm [undefined]: 2 cores... not so good!
[Chouchou2570] 8:42 pm [undefined]: yep
[ameyer] 8:42 pm [undefined]: for you, you will see fine performance with 2 airplanes!
[ameyer] 8:42 pm [undefined]: this is still enough to have fun!
[daerden] 8:42 pm [undefined]: Will you have AI-planes realistically flying a circuit (doing going arounds / crab against crosswind / ...)
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH nous à quitté(e) à 8:42 pm.
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH est arrivé(e) à 8:42 pm.
[ameyer] 8:42 pm [undefined]: you can still have fun flying!
[ameyer] 8:42 pm [undefined]: your pc will let you fly 1 plane just fine
[ameyer] 8:43 pm [undefined]: BUT, if you want to have 20 planes all flying at once, with no reduction in framerate, you will need lots of cores!
[ameyer] 8:43 pm [undefined]: so, you can have a basic pc, no problem
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH nous à quitté(e) à 8:43 pm.
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH est arrivé(e) à 8:43 pm.
[Chouchou2570] 8:43 pm [undefined]: or VATSIM
[ameyer] 8:43 pm [undefined]: basic video card, no problem
[X-Plane.fr]: StrudeR est arrivé(e) à 8:43 pm.
[Chouchou2570] 8:43 pm [undefined]: What about integration of vatsim/ivao plug-ins ?
[ameyer] 8:43 pm [undefined]: but, you will have only 1 plane (or vtsim, yes) and small cities that are like towns
[StrudeR] 8:43 pm [undefined]: Hi guys
[ameyer] 8:43 pm [undefined]: if you want to have major cities, with thousands of cars, and dozens of planes, then you need lots of cores!
[ameyer] 8:44 pm [undefined]: so x-plane 10 is very scalebale, depending on how many cpus you have
[ameyer] 8:44 pm [undefined]: whew!
[ameyer] 8:44 pm [undefined]: ok next q!
[X-Plane.fr]: heli-samu nous à quitté(e) à 8:44 pm.
[ameyer] 8:44 pm [undefined]: ok vatsim plugins should all be fine
[PascalPe] 8:44 pm [undefined]: Do you planned to release some new tool to help designers to handle the secneries ?
...and / or to forward on Marginal tools ?
[daerden] 8:44 pm [undefined]: Will you have AI-planes realistically flying a circuit (doing going arounds / crab against crosswind / ...)
[ameyer] 8:44 pm [undefined]: all plugins should be fine
[ameyer] 8:44 pm [undefined]: we are not messing up or changing the plauign interface
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH nous à quitté(e) à 8:44 pm.
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH est arrivé(e) à 8:44 pm.
[ameyer] 8:44 pm [undefined]: email ben supnik over the tools... he does those
[ameyer] 8:45 pm [undefined]: sure we want better tools... ben does that part
[ameyer] 8:45 pm [undefined]: i do plane-maker
[ameyer] 8:45 pm [undefined]: ben does scenery-editing and plugins
[ameyer] 8:45 pm [undefined]: next q?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:45 pm [undefined]: Did the Mac Version of X-Plane 10 will be available at the same time ?
[ameyer] 8:45 pm [undefined]: huh-huh!
[X-Plane.fr]: stargate est arrivé(e) à 8:45 pm.
[ameyer] 8:45 pm [undefined]: wring questions!
[ameyer] 8:45 pm [undefined]: the real quesiton is: "will the pc version be available at the same time!"
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:45 pm [undefined]: loool
[PGirboux] 8:45 pm [undefined]:
[ameyer] 8:45 pm [undefined]: we all do all our work on mac
[Daniel_L] 8:45 pm [undefined]: And Linux at the end...
[StrudeR] 8:46 pm [undefined]: and linux ?
[ameyer] 8:46 pm [undefined]: perhaps, if i am feeling generous, i will give to the pc users as well
[ameyer] 8:46 pm [undefined]: but mac is first
[ameyer] 8:46 pm [undefined]: yes linux same as pc
[ameyer] 8:46 pm [undefined]: we will do linux and pc, but all work is done on mac
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH nous à quitté(e) à 8:46 pm.
[X-Plane.fr]: titub est arrivé(e) à 8:46 pm.
[ameyer] 8:46 pm [undefined]: ok next ?
[StrudeR] 8:46 pm [undefined]: ws know Wine indeed...
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH est arrivé(e) à 8:46 pm.
[Chouchou2570] 8:46 pm [undefined]: GPS improvment ?
[PascalPe] 8:46 pm [undefined]: Don't you think that skipping Christmas for a first release -even beta- will make you to lose sales ?
[ameyer] 8:47 pm [undefined]: yes
[ameyer] 8:47 pm [undefined]: but i have no choice
[ameyer] 8:47 pm [undefined]: the sim must be perfect
[ameyer] 8:47 pm [undefined]: plausinle
[ameyer] 8:47 pm [undefined]: i can afford to lose money ;-P
[ameyer] 8:47 pm [undefined]: thanks to iphone ;-P
[ameyer] 8:47 pm [undefined]: plausible

[Pierre]

5ème partie :

[daerden] 8:47 pm [undefined]: Do you have another release-estimate? (had to ask)
[ameyer] 8:47 pm [undefined]: march?
[ameyer] 8:47 pm [undefined]: maybe?
[daerden] 8:47 pm [undefined]: march!
[daerden] 8:47 pm [undefined]: lol
[maclinuxg4] 8:47 pm [undefined]: Mars
[ameyer] 8:48 pm [undefined]: ok next q?
[X-Plane.fr]: titub nous à quitté(e) à 8:48 pm.
[LoseMagnet] 8:48 pm [undefined]: Will X-Plane 10 propose atmospheric model improvements related to gliding? I mean : Wave lift, Thermals with variable shapes (not just vertical tubes), cum* on top of ascending currents?
[ameyer] 8:48 pm [undefined]: h,,.. i dont plan to change this for 10.00
[ameyer] 8:48 pm [undefined]: but, maybe after 10.000 is done, then we can look at more thermal effects after that
[ameyer] 8:49 pm [undefined]: but, for 10.00, it will be nice to watch the glider wings flex!
[ameyer] 8:49 pm [undefined]: and this is no fake!
[ameyer] 8:49 pm [undefined]: the wing fles will have real aero effects
[LoseMagnet] 8:49 pm [undefined]: ok thanks
[ameyer] 8:49 pm [undefined]: the lift does not all go up, but aims in to the center, from the wings bending
[Daniel_L] 8:49 pm [undefined]: Wings flex will be locked to flight model ?
[ameyer] 8:49 pm [undefined]: and the dihedral chaning affects the yaw stability and thus roll stability!
[ameyer] 8:49 pm [undefined]: so all the wing flex IS hooked to the flight mdoel, for sure!
[Daniel_L] 8:49 pm [undefined]: Yes !
[ameyer] 8:49 pm [undefined]: the plane handles differently with flexed wing
[X-Plane.fr]: MichelHH nous à quitté(e) à 8:49 pm.
[ameyer] 8:50 pm [undefined]: remember to hit the / key to see the flight mdoel in flight!
[ameyer] 8:50 pm [undefined]: you will see how all the lift vectors change location and direction as the wings flex!
[ameyer] 8:50 pm [undefined]: you can see it for sure!
[ameyer] 8:50 pm [undefined]: ok net q?
[ameyer] 8:50 pm [undefined]: next q?
[pepito59] 8:50 pm [undefined]: Et bien je poserai ma question en francais : est-ce que les lumières seront meilleures que sur la v 9
[Daniel_L] 8:50 pm [undefined]: And of course links to 3D Object ?
[PascalPe] 8:50 pm [undefined]: what will happens to older planes ? Flex will be inherent or a new feature requiring activation in PM ?
[ameyer] 8:51 pm [undefined]: the wing flex will be a dataref for the 3d object, so you can make th 3d object show the flex if you like
[ameyer] 8:51 pm [undefined]: the lights are amazing for x-plane 10
[ameyer] 8:51 pm [undefined]: we have lites that light up roads and buildings and the ground
[ameyer] 8:51 pm [undefined]: the lighting model for x-plane 10 is tunning
[ameyer] 8:51 pm [undefined]: stunning
[ameyer] 8:51 pm [undefined]: i did NOT ask for a better lighting model, but ben did it anyway ;-P
[X-Plane.fr]: Kimono est arrivé(e) à 8:52 pm.
[ameyer] 8:52 pm [undefined]: so, the lights light up the roads and ramps and stuff
[ameyer] 8:52 pm [undefined]: i took our artist, alex gifford, flying at night in 428x so he could see how the world looks at night from the sky, studying in detail
[ameyer] 8:52 pm [undefined]: alex and ben saw how to do lighting at night very very well
[ameyer] 8:52 pm [undefined]: each light lights up the right bits of road and ground and ramp and building
[ameyer] 8:52 pm [undefined]: really amazing
[khamsin] 8:52 pm [undefined]: Shadows ? Reflections maps ? Alias textures ?
[Daniel_L] 8:52 pm [undefined]: with glowing cities ?
[ameyer] 8:53 pm [undefined]: this requires video card shaders
[ameyer] 8:53 pm [undefined]: cities will glow in JUST THE RIGHT PLACES
[ameyer] 8:53 pm [undefined]: it will NOT simply 'lite a texture'!
[ameyer] 8:53 pm [undefined]: blah!
[ameyer] 8:53 pm [undefined]: that would be SO x-plane 9! ;-P
[ameyer] 8:53 pm [undefined]: instead, we light each PART of each OBJECT!
[ameyer] 8:53 pm [undefined]: yee-haw!
[ameyer] 8:53 pm [undefined]: 1000 times better!
[ameyer] 8:53 pm [undefined]: ok next q!
[X-Plane.fr]: benead est arrivé(e) à 8:53 pm.
[pepito59] 8:54 pm [undefined]: ok
[PGirboux] 8:54 pm [undefined]: plus de questions ?
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:54 pm [undefined]: Will you implement the shadows for xplane on iphone ?
[ameyer] 8:54 pm [undefined]: unknown!
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:54 pm [undefined]: the plane shadow
[ameyer] 8:54 pm [undefined]: iphone has a problem: small cpuy, small ram
[ameyer] 8:54 pm [undefined]: and, i do not want the ORIGINAL ipod-touches to stop working!
[PascalPe] 8:55 pm [undefined]: will cities light clouds ? (ambiant light)
[daerden] 8:55 pm [undefined]: Having multiple cores will be important. Will Xplane10 benefit from the latest graphic cards?
[ameyer] 8:55 pm [undefined]: cities will not lite clouds for 10.000
[ameyer] 8:55 pm [undefined]: but, this might be a nice feature for 10.xx
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:55 pm [undefined]: I understand, but the plane shadow when you fly from outside is a really really good thing
[ameyer] 8:55 pm [undefined]: next q?
[LoseMagnet] 8:55 pm [undefined]: Will X-Plane 10 allow to set up tabs from X-Plane before a flight? A bit like the centre of gravity, fuel, or ballast, which can be managed via a menu. We can do it with Plane Maker but the process is heavier.
[X-Plane.fr]: Spock1 nous à quitté(e) à 8:55 pm.
[ameyer] 8:56 pm [undefined]: yah... hmm... perhaps it could be done as an option...
[X-Plane.fr]: jahjah nous à quitté(e) à 8:56 pm.
[X-Plane.fr]: jahjah est arrivé(e) à 8:56 pm.
[LoseMagnet] 8:56 pm [undefined]: because some planes are not correctly set
[ameyer] 8:56 pm [undefined]: but we are using all the ram we have on the ipodtouch
[Chouchou2570] 8:56 pm [undefined]: Do you plan avionics improvement, including gps and fms ?
[ameyer] 8:56 pm [undefined]: and remember, if the app uses too much ram on the ipod, it crashes!
[ameyer] 8:56 pm [undefined]: then everyone thinks i am trying to scame them!!!!!!!!!
[daerden] 8:56 pm [undefined]: G1000?
[ameyer] 8:56 pm [undefined]: i do not have new avionics and fms for x-plane 10 YET, but i think i may do it, since many people want it
[ameyer] 8:57 pm [undefined]: i keep meaning to do g1000... yah i gotta do that
[ameyer] 8:57 pm [undefined]: maybe i can do it for 10.0!
[ameyer] 8:57 pm [undefined]: lets see how long the rest of the team takes to do their stuff
[ameyer] 8:57 pm [undefined]: if they take until february for beta, that might give me time to do a g1000
[StrudeR] 8:57 pm [undefined]: if 10.00 comes in may it'll be ok too, with g1000
[X-Plane.fr]: ameyer nous à quitté(e) à 8:57 pm.
[X-Plane.fr]: ameyer est arrivé(e) à 8:57 pm.
[ameyer] 8:57 pm [undefined]: oops i got kicked out of browser!
[ameyer] 8:57 pm [undefined]: now i am back!
[daerden] 8:58 pm [undefined]: will the object oriented code allow for the same frequent updates that we had in v9?
[X-Plane.fr]: stargate nous à quitté(e) à 8:58 pm.
[ameyer] 8:58 pm [undefined]: ok i hope everyone can still see me
[ameyer] 8:58 pm [undefined]: yah we could add a g1000 for 10.1 in may, remeber
[Chouchou2570] 8:58 pm [undefined]: yep
[PGirboux] 8:58 pm [undefined]: yes
[daerden] 8:58 pm [undefined]: yes
[ameyer] 8:58 pm [undefined]: o next q?

[Pierre]

6ème partie :

[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:58 pm [undefined]: Aganin on XP for Iphone, maybe in the X-Plane HDEF 4G you may put the plane shadows (more ram in the Iphone 4)
[ameyer] 8:58 pm [undefined]: yes, you have made a point with shadows for hdef that i cnanot deny!
[ameyer] 8:58 pm [undefined]: cannot deny!
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 8:59 pm [undefined]:
[david42fr] 8:59 pm [undefined]: Is Xplane take advantage of new GPU, 68XX or GTX 580?
[X-Plane.fr]: Siffli est arrivé(e) à 8:59 pm.
[ameyer] 8:59 pm [undefined]: i do not know about the 68xx and gtx580
[ameyer] 8:59 pm [undefined]: that is part of the project that ben works on
[ameyer] 9:00 pm [undefined]: next q?
[ameyer] 9:00 pm [undefined]: none?
[PascalPe] 9:00 pm [undefined]: including CUDA routine to speed up processing ?
[maclinuxg4] 9:00 pm [undefined]: is a tool to convert or hlelp for transfert a part of all objet into X-plane 10 ?
[ameyer] 9:00 pm [undefined]: ok that was 30 minutes i think. ;-P
[PGirboux] 9:00 pm [undefined]: you have work
[ameyer] 9:01 pm [undefined]: i think cuda is not QUITE right for us right now... but maybe later
[ameyer] 9:01 pm [undefined]: we want multiple procesors for good x-p10 performance and good video card
[ameyer] 9:01 pm [undefined]: and plenty of ram !
[ameyer] 9:01 pm [undefined]: and plenty of vram!
[X-Plane.fr]: daerden nous à quitté(e) à 9:01 pm.
[X-Plane.fr]: daerden est arrivé(e) à 9:01 pm.
[PascalPe] 9:01 pm [undefined]: thank you very much for all responses, and works !
[ameyer] 9:01 pm [undefined]: for x-10, you can run it with same pc as x-plane 9... but then it will not have lots of planes and cars and cities!
[ameyer] 9:01 pm [undefined]: ok i am back to wing-flex!
[ameyer] 9:01 pm [undefined]: bon jour!
[X-Plane.fr]: fasm est arrivé(e) à 9:02 pm.
[ameyer] 9:02 pm [undefined]: 60 minutes seemed like 5 minutes!
[ameyer] 9:02 pm [undefined]: very strange!
[PGirboux] 9:02 pm [undefined]: thank you Austin
[ameyer] 9:02 pm [undefined]: that seemed like 5 minutes!
[X-Plane.fr]: maclinuxg4 nous à quitté(e) à 9:02 pm.
[Chouchou2570] 9:02 pm [undefined]: Thanks for your answers
[khamsin] 9:02 pm [undefined]: Thanks Austin
[ameyer] 9:02 pm [undefined]: and an hour is gone!
[pilouzzzzzzzzz] 9:02 pm [undefined]: Really a HUGE Thanks for this communication, it's a great pleasure to speak with X plane conceptor and you are very very interresting
[LoseMagnet] 9:02 pm [undefined]: thanks a lot
[daerden] 9:02 pm [undefined]: thanks!
[david42fr] 9:02 pm [undefined]: thanks a lot
[ameyer] 9:02 pm [undefined]: aaaeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-P
[StrudeR] 9:02 pm [undefined]: good day to you too. thanks
[PGirboux] 9:02 pm [undefined]: thank you for your visite and all info about 10
[ameyer] 9:02 pm [undefined]: ok i am to ing-flex!
[ameyer] 9:02 pm [undefined]: wing-flex!
[PascalPe] 9:03 pm [undefined]: better wishes to have also some flex time !
[X-Plane.fr]: Harfang nous à quitté(e) à 9:03 pm.
[PGirboux] 9:03 pm [undefined]: hope to cu when v10 will be released
[PascalPe] 9:03 pm [undefined]:
[StrudeR] 9:03 pm [undefined]: )ouais ho! en mai, ca se prévoit pas encore ...)
[X-Plane.fr]: ameyer nous à quitté(e) à 9:03 pm.

[Daniel_L]

...
[ameyer] 8:08 pm [undefined]: we have alex gifford doing the plausible world objects
[ameyer] 8:08 pm [undefined]: we have alex fgifford making the plausible world objects and textures.. he is doing a really relly really amazing job
...

Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas la correspondance Noms / Pseudos, Alex Gifford est Propsman. C'est à lui qu'on doit l'EC120 et le Hugues 500. Il était venu le dimanche à notre premier congrès X-Plane avec son projet en cours, le XB-70.

Daniel

[beber]

Et pour ceux qui ne connaissaient pas Austin, ils ont pu voir qu'il n'est pas facile de lui tirer les vers du nez ou de lui couper la parole (encore plus en Tchat ! :lol

[Pierre]

Et pour ceux qui ne connaissaient pas Austin, ils ont pu voir qu'il n'est pas facile de lui tirer les vers du nez ou de lui couper la parole (encore plus en Tchat ! :lol

Nous avions prévus nos fameuses 10 questions mais quand Austin a dit qu'il avait 1/2 heure à nous consacrer... On l'a laissé parler.
Et la 1/2 heure s'est transformée en 1h.

[pilouzzzzzzzzz]

Et ce fut extrêmement agréable de pouvoir l'avoir en direct

Encore Merci.